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Old 02-14-2012, 12:13 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Would that work? I am really a noob to atv stuff so please be patient.
DO NOT BUY THE RFY'S... Dad bought them for my sisters 250 Honda, had them set and all that stuff but she went out and rode (Lightly, shes only 10) on the MX track and the shocks blew out in a matter of about a lap and a half... So just sayin, don't buy these...
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order this i have a similar kit and i jump a little wheelie and trail ride.

then order this to match the front width.

i have both of these installed on mine and they are safe. many people on here are scared of them but you won't have much fun on one of these atv's being a puss.
When I first got my 660 I bought a lowering kit for ice racing. When summer rolled around I decided I liked the lowered feel/look and so I just kept it on for summer riding. I went to the local sand hill and learned that lowering kits are quite unpleasant in the whoops at any kind of speed. When I got to the trail system (which also had some whoops in it) I noticed that the front end gets soft and while it seemed more stable in high speed cornering it also responded harshly to hitting any kind of obstacle at moderate speeds. But it became more about safety and less about "being a puss" when I bent my left front shock and ripped the upper shock mount almost completely off the frame because I got too much air in the dunes while running a lowering kit.

Therefore when I see that someone wants their machine lower and has decided to take a short cut to get there I would rather suggest a shorter pair of shocks than a lowering kit (though aftermarket suspension is the preferred path). Yes the shorter shocks might bottom out but they will be more structurally sound than a pair of brackets flopping in the wind (you can tighten them but when the suspension unloads there is a rotational force on those connections first and a tensile load on the shock second) which have a much greater impact on the mounting angles of the shocks.

I don't wish to attack someone for running a lowering kit if they're happy on it, and I don't believe I have in this thread, I would only ever advise caution.
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When I first got my 660 I bought a lowering kit for ice racing. When summer rolled around I decided I liked the lowered feel/look and so I just kept it on for summer riding. I went to the local sand hill and learned that lowering kits are quite unpleasant in the whoops at any kind of speed. When I got to the trail system (which also had some whoops in it) I noticed that the front end gets soft and while it seemed more stable in high speed cornering it also responded harshly to hitting any kind of obstacle at moderate speeds. But it became more about safety and less about "being a puss" when I bent my left front shock and ripped the upper shock mount almost completely off the frame because I got too much aBir in the dunes while running a lowering kit.

Therefore when I see that someone wants their machine lower and has decided to take a short cut to get there I would rather suggest a shorter pair of shocks than a lowering kit (though aftermarket suspension is the preferred path). Yes the shorter shocks might bottom out but they will be more structurally sound than a pair of brackets flopping in the wind (you can tighten them but when the suspension unloads there is a rotational force on those connections first and a tensile load on the shock second) which have a much greater impact on the mounting angles of the shocks.

I don't wish to attack someone for running a lowering kit if they're happy on it, and I don't believe I have in this thread, I would only ever advise caution.
Got a question for Mad Dog. Why do you lower the bikes for Ice racing. We tried this years ago in oval tracking and found better results with riding more normal heights. Reason I'm asking is my son is planning on doing some ice racing this winter ...............
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Old 02-14-2012, 01:50 PM   #34 (permalink)
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order this i have a similar kit and i jump a little wheelie and trail ride.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-Rapto...#ht_762wt_1187

then order this to match the front width.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuraBlue-Rea...#ht_2453wt_954

i have both of these installed on mine and they are safe. many people on here are scared of them but you won't have much fun on one of these atv's being a puss.



I have spacers on the back but I really don't wanna get front spacers because It seems those are only good for mainly flat track usage.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:29 PM   #35 (permalink)
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i don't use front spacers the lowering kit i have widened the front about 2in. also, due to kicking the shocks out a bit. and yes i agree DO NOT MX ON THE LOWERING KIT!
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Majohns are you from Kentucky? Saw the t&t sticker on your bike?
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no i am from alabama. i ordered my grips and the decals came with them so i said what the hell this looks like a good place for them.
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:12 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I too want to lower my rappy, but just a little. Already have the 450 shocks. I race cross country style racing. My question is what about redrilling the upper shock mounting brackets. I'm not wanting to go hog wild with lowering, just enough to help with cornering. I figure i can drill the upper mount almost 3/4" higher. Would that give any significant help in handaling?
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i wouldn't re drill the upper mounts. More holes=less material=less strength. Just my opinion.
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I would actually be drilling the new holes closer to the top of the shock mount where the top of the c chanel is. It would provide more strength than lower on the tabs where it is now. I would also have to cut and clearence where the existing hole is to fit the shock. Kinda like clearencing for the 450 shocks only 3/4" higher.
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