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Oh yeah, the most important... When negotiating a price, forget the sale price and the flashy signs. Take the MSRP or suggested retail price and nock it down 40% and work up from there. You should be able to buy most for at least 30% off. Know the bosses name for each dealer brand you like and ask for him. Call the dealership from the show and ask his name. Lots of factory reps go to the shows and you can sometimes get free stuff thrown in. Upgraded speakers, another medicine cabinet or bigger one if room in the bathroom. On a factory order you can get bigger tires, longer awning. Even longer or bigger overhead cabinets. If you see it better in any of their other trailers, it can be available for your trailer.

Although Forest River has some good looking features, I talked to a rep a few years ago and he didn't deny that their quality wasn't up to par. Lanny, camp host from Half Moon Bay has one. Cabinets are falling apart, soft wet floor in 3 places, 110 volt wiring problems, steps and more. All manufactures use the same appliances, awnings, A/C, windows and furniture. But it's how the box is built that matters.

Another thought is ground clearance and length. If you camp in the woods this matters. Low hanging plumbing can be easily damaged. You can reverse the axles, but that increases wind resistance and center of gravity. The tires I just bought for mine are around 2in taller then existing, higher capacity, and made in the USA.
I was looking at the coachman, they went into more detail about how the side walls are constructed. Aluminum studs and no wood at all , except for the interior. Is that pretty standard? Or just unique to them?

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Also another thing to look at is solar availability. Some of these new ones are coming out pre wired and ready for a panel. I am adding (2) Renogy 100 watt solar panels to mine but I think something like that would be ideal for the Glamis full sun boondocking. I will have 1 panel mounted and 1 on a 20' lead set up on a frame I built that I can move around camp when we are in shaded areas. Bonus if you can get your option of batteries, get the dual 6volt set up vs a single 12 volt. Usually they provide the cheapest battery. The threw an Exide Stowaway battery on mine, its a hybrid, not a true deep cycle. I am switching to Trojan T-105's with this current set up planned.
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Is yours newer? Any real issues?
No issues at all, its a 2015 model. The smallest shockwave you can get. So far so good.

I think it was made in Oregon, if I am correct.

I have taken it three times to the dunes ( 10 hours drive from up north ) and various sites around my place and its holding up well.

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Also another thing to look at is solar availability. Some of these new ones are coming out pre wired and ready for a panel. I am adding (2) Renogy 100 watt solar panels to mine but I think something like that would be ideal for the Glamis full sun boondocking. I will have 1 panel mounted and 1 on a 20' lead set up on a frame I built that I can move around camp when we are in shaded areas. Bonus if you can get your option of batteries, get the dual 6volt set up vs a single 12 volt. Usually they provide the cheapest battery. The threw an Exide Stowaway battery on mine, its a hybrid, not a true deep cycle. I am switching to Trojan T-105's with this current set up planned.
6 volts are great, I switched my parents over a few years ago. They get 3 days easily dry camping without issue. One option that is a must for me is generator.

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Hi all, first post. I've been snooping and joined to comment on this thread as ive been shopping around for a newer toyhauler as well. I currently have a 2015 Momentum by Grand Design 380 TH. A company called ATC has caught my eye, they make a completely aluminum toyhauler. They've just released their 5th wheel version and i'm getting pretty excited about it. No i'm not a salesman or a dealer, just wanted to share what I thought is an awesome wagon. aluminumtoyhauler dot com

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I was looking at the coachman, they went into more detail about how the side walls are constructed. Aluminum studs and no wood at all , except for the interior. Is that pretty standard? Or just unique to them?
Most that are doing fiberglass walls are doing "vacuum bonded". A plastic bag as such is laid out on a big bench, a length of Filon (fiberglass) is laid on top, then the foam insulation with wood or aluminum framing around window, door, awning wire runs and other mounting areas, (Not all manufactures do framing), then the inner wall paneling is laid on top, (or bottom if reversed). A moisture activated adhesive is added between layers. Then the bag is sealed over the whole assembly and a vacuum is pulled and everything is cured as a complete assembly. This makes a very strong and structural wall. Windows, doors, and other holes are routed out. Aluminum siding is usually stapled to wood framing with fiberglass batting insulation in the walls. I like Filon walls as being better built, although heavier, however aluminum is easier to repair if damaged. You can Google Filon, vacuum bonded and stick framing for info.

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6 volts are great, I switched my parents over a few years ago. They get 3 days easily dry camping without issue. One option that is a must for me is generator.
A generator to run a microwave and AC at the same time is great and most trailers have them. But, they use a lot of fuel. I also have a small Honda 2000 that runs a microwave or AC all day on 1 tank of gas, just not at the same time. One other word of caution, don't get a tank-less water heater. Nothing but trouble!!

Many manufactures have come and gone since I retired, some good and some not so good. It's a crap shoot now-a-days. The main thing, seal every as soon as you can. Water will rot out the roof, walls and settle in the floor. It will find the smallest hole and wick from there. We've taken many trailer bodies off the frames and replaced floors. My guys loved those jobs. I used to bid $450 - $500 per trailer foot for a floor replacement. It's prolly up to $700 per foot now. If you buy used, walk away from anything with a soft floor, especially around the edges, doors, or under windows.
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A generator to run a microwave and AC at the same time is great and most trailers have them. But, they use a lot of fuel. I also have a small Honda 2000 that runs a microwave or AC all day on 1 tank of gas, just not at the same time. One other word of caution, don't get a tank-less water heater. Nothing but trouble!!

Many manufactures have come and gone since I retired, some good and some not so good. It's a crap shoot now-a-days. The main thing, seal every as soon as you can. Water will rot out the roof, walls and settle in the floor. It will find the smallest hole and wick from there. We've taken many trailer bodies off the frames and replaced floors. My guys loved those jobs. I used to bid $450 - $500 per trailer foot for a floor replacement. It's prolly up to $700 per foot now. If you buy used, walk away from anything with a soft floor, especially around the edges, doors, or under windows.
Dezperado: My toy hauler is a 2015, when do I need to get it re caulk? yearly ? etc? I should start thinking about that
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Hi all, first post. I've been snooping and joined to comment on this thread as ive been shopping around for a newer toyhauler as well. I currently have a 2015 Momentum by Grand Design 380 TH. A company called ATC has caught my eye, they make a completely aluminum toyhauler. They've just released their 5th wheel version and i'm getting pretty excited about it. No i'm not a salesman or a dealer, just wanted to share what I thought is an awesome wagon. aluminumtoyhauler dot com

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Hi all, first post. I've been snooping and joined to comment on this thread as ive been shopping around for a newer toyhauler as well. I currently have a 2015 Momentum by Grand Design 380 TH. A company called ATC has caught my eye, they make a completely aluminum toyhauler. They've just released their 5th wheel version and i'm getting pretty excited about it. No i'm not a salesman or a dealer, just wanted to share what I thought is an awesome wagon. aluminumtoyhauler dot com

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Looks like there’s a dealer for them in the Portland area. Might take a look.
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