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Recent article in the Register Guard as copied below also: http://savetheridersdunes.blogspot.c...c-article.html

This Saturday's meeting @ Florence possibly may be the last meeting open to public input....your attendence and letters mailed to [email protected] are necessary....

It is boiling down at these meeting discussions that ATV owners who think they need an excessively loud machine is where the blame is going to be put...and for good reason....Guys, PLEASE quiet those pipes down to help keep our trails and dunes open....STRD

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Dune riders dread crackdown
As the Forest Service prepares to implement trail cuts made in 1994, off-highway-vehicle users brace for change

BY WINSTON ROSS
THE REGISTER-GUARD
Appeared in print: Saturday, Jun 19, 2010
FLORENCE — For 16 years, off-highway-vehicle users in the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area have enjoyed something of a free pass, at least where it concerns a spiderweb of de facto trails in certain stretches of the 60-mile-long expanse of sand between Florence and Coos Bay.
No longer. The U.S. Forest Service is finally getting around to outlining the areas of the dunes that were supposed to be off-limits in accordance with a 1994 management plan. But, because riders have grown accustomed to cruising these routes unmolested, the crackdown feels like a takeaway to some of the riders.
“We keep losing and losing,” said Scott Ryland, a member of the Northwest Sand Deuces and a Florence off-road enthusiast. “We have an exploding sport that brings a lot of tourist money to the coast — we’re talking millions of dollars annually that OHVers spend — and we’re trying to protect what little bit we’ve got left.”
Ryland sits on the 15-person group that’s tasked with making recommendations to the Forest Service about how best to implement the 1994 plan — a group that’s fully aware that areas of the dunes were supposed to be off-limits to the vehicles.
But Ryland and others acknowledge that the government’s slow implementation has everything to do with the way things are today.
The Forest Service split up the dunes into several different zones in 1994. Area “10c,” which makes up about 15 percent of the dunes’ 24,000 acres, permits OHV riding but only on designated trails.
Part of what’s tricky about trying to fix the problem is that there’s widespread agreement that some of the trails in use now are appropriate, even if they haven’t been designated. They’re natural ingress and egress points to open riding areas, or they afford critical access for emergency vehicles.
That’s why it’s hard to figure out just how much space OHV users stand to lose. At this point, Ryland said, they’re already restricted to about 40 percent of the recreational area’s total acreage. Because some trails will be reopened, and others will be converted to open riding area, a different classification, there’s no way of knowing until the end of the lengthy process how exactly things might change on the coast.
Official estimates aren’t available, but Ryland guesses OHV users will lose access to about 20 percent of the routes they now use.
“It’s a big chunk,” he said. “A lot of it is in the north dunes, up around the Florence area. There’s a moderate amount between Hauser and North Bend. Winchester Bay is probably the least impacted.”
It’s a frustration for OHV users and the businesses that rely on their tourism dollars, Ryland said, but as fellow committee member Adele Dawson puts it, “this is long in coming.”
OHV use affects sensitive riparian areas and wildlife, and the noise carries well beyond designated areas, Dawson said.
“The whole town of Florence is heavily affected by the noise,” she said. “The Forest Service has just been remiss in enforcing this. The riders don’t see it that way, but it’s the reality of the situation.”

The reason it’s taken so long to get to this issue, said Sharon Stewart, the Forest Service’s dispersed recreation supervisor, is that the 1994 plan contained some lofty objectives.
Forest service officials first worked through an alcohol ban on the dunes, then an environmental analysis to designate dispersed camping sites in the dunes, in correlation with a ban on open sand camping. Large areas of the dunes also were closed to off-highway use in that period.
“There’s only so much you can do in a given time,” Stewart said. “Sadly, this last piece was kind of the final implementation.”
The result is a difficult balancing act, said Ross Holloway, who is coordinating the OHV working group. Most of the members understand that there’ll need to be new restrictions and that all of the places that are technically off-limits right now can’t stay that way.
But the devil is in the details of the report the group needs to draft for the Forest Service by the year’s end.
“There’s a great deal of fear,” Holloway said. “The OHV community feels that most of the times these processes go on, they lose.”
Ryland said his fellow riders are working to literally clean up their image, by adopting sections of the coast where they pick up trash. He also said OHV users are lobbying the Legislature to lower the required limit on the amount of noise these vehicles are allowed to make to 96 decibels, from the current statewide limit of 99. That means OHV users are trying to make themselves quieter. But it’s also to change the Forest Service’s limit — 93 decibels — which riders want to see upped to 96, so there’s a consistent level enforced.
Ryland says he realizes no matter how much effort is put forth, the tension between riders and people who despise the activity is bound to continue.
“The environmental side is not going to be happy until we’re not there,” he said. “We’re not asking for more. We just want to hang on to what we’ve got. But the other side I don’t think is going to be happy until they’ve got it all.”
Winston Ross can be reached at 541-338-2366 or [email protected].
PUBLIC MEETING
What: A meeting of the Off Highway Vehicle Designated Routes Working Group for the Oregon Dunes National Recreation area
When: June 26, 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Public comment period at 2:30 p.m.
Where: Florence Events Center, 715 Quince St. in Florence
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Just wanted to keep this going... Here is the press release from the FS.


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June 17, 2010

OHV Designated Routes Working Group Meeting – Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area


Reedsport, OR – A meeting for the Off Highway Vehicle (OHV) Designated Routes Working Group for the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area (Oregon Dunes) will be held on Saturday, June 26.

The Working Group will meet from 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. at the Florence Events Center, located at 715 Quince Street in Florence.

The meeting agenda will focus on reviewing designated route proposals for the three riding areas that were developed at previous meetings, a discussion on key issues identified by the group and a discussion of the 1994 Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area management plan.

The public is invited to attend the meeting. A public comment period will be provided at 2:30 p.m.

This will be the sixth in a series of six meetings on the Working Group scheduled to take place over a one-year period. During previous meetings the group reviewed and discussed background information about the Oregon Dunes and the designation of routes in Management Area 10©, discussed criteria for evaluating alternative OHV routes that could be considered for designation, and developed initial ideas for alternative routes in the middle riding area (Umpqua Beach area) and north riding area of the Oregon Dunes.

“Over the past six months this group has had an opportunity to become familiar with riding areas within the Dunes,” said Pam Gardner, District Ranger for the Central Coast Ranger District and Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area. “As a result, this group has been able to work together to develop some valuable ideas for designated routes,” added Gardner.


The Working Group was formed in the fall of 2009 to explore ideas for the designation of OHV routes in a portion of the Oregon Dunes (upland vegetation areas included in Management Area 10©). The process to designate OHV routes was identified as an action item in the 1994 Management Plan for the Oregon Dunes. Working Group members represent a broad range of interests and organizations including: Organized OHV groups, unaffiliated OHV users, outfitters and/or guide businesses, mushroom pickers, fish and wildlife advocates, conservation groups, local Tribes, local community leaders, State ATV Program, local emergency response agencies, local Parks Departments, local landowners, and the general public.

Individuals requiring alternate format material or accommodation, or who have questions regarding the June 26 meeting can contact Ross Holloway, OHV Designated Routes Working Group Facilitator, by phone at 503-812-4056 or by e-mail at [email protected].

More information about the OHV working group, meeting times and agendas can be found online at http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/siuslaw/proj...plans-projects.
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Nice!... any necessary info can be found on our Facebook Page here - the main links are directly under the profile picture to our Website, Blog, Email, and the Forest Service's website for the 10-C info: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Floren...6641722?ref=ts
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Bump for this Saturday's meeting....Public input @ 2:30....
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letter sent, thanks for the hard work LBR!!
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Thanx Robert - emailed out and posted here: http://savetheridersdunes.blogspot.com/
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agreed! write a letter if you have ever been, plan to go, or know someone who rides these dunes it affects us all. If your on the east coast dreaming of the ultimate dune trip and Oregon is on your list write a letter! It can be a short (thats what she said) just write please!
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agreed! write a letter if you have ever been, plan to go, or know someone who rides these dunes it affects us all. If your on the east coast dreaming of the ultimate dune trip and Oregon is on your list write a letter! It can be a short (thats what she said) just write please!
The good news is letters have been written and processed by SaveTheRidersDunes for tomorrow's meeting....the "other" news is that out of 10s of thousands of riders that we've reached out to, we have had a hardy................. 8 letters since the last meeting on June 5th.......thanx for those on the Raptor Forum that did write......long live riding on public lands,,,,,whatever .....getting time to blow the dust off of our hiking boots, eh? ....STRD
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