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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-04-2016, 12:19 AM Thread Starter
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Sand Paddles

Hey guys and girls. Ok so I just picked up an 04 Raptor 660. The thing is bone stock and Im looking to get some sand paddles for this thing. I ride big dunes in Dumont California but im usually on my buddies quad. Ive never had to buy my own paddles so Im completely clueless on the wheel/tire size to buy for my quad. Any help on this would help me out a lot. Thanks
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What kind of riding?

Just playing around ITP Sand Stars are hard to beat. They turn / slide better than straight blade paddles but they don't have as good of straight line traction as Skat Trak Haulers or Extreme.

Slat Track Haulers are a better drag racing tire. I run 20x10x10 9 paddle extreme s on my raptor. I'd probably do 8 or less paddles on regular Haulers if you want to go the straight paddle route. If you over paddle your raptor it will make it doggy in the sand. You want some wheel speed / slip.
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Thanks for the info
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What kind of riding?

Just playing around ITP Sand Stars are hard to beat. They turn / slide better than straight blade paddles but they don't have as good of straight line traction as Skat Trak Haulers or Extreme.

Slat Track Haulers are a better drag racing tire. I run 20x10x10 9 paddle extreme s on my raptor. I'd probably do 8 or less paddles on regular Haulers if you want to go the straight paddle route. If you over paddle your raptor it will make it doggy in the sand. You want some wheel speed / slip.


Good advice. Sand Stars are hard to beat for a stock raptor. And they are usually available on Craig's List now. Straight paddles like Skat Trak's will need power. Like the Big 3. The secret to sand, is, you need to MOVE sand. Be able to accelerate from most any gear. You might want to get a front sprocket 1 tooth smaller.


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I've had sand stars, the are heavy molded tire. My sand stars lasted 8 trips to glamis and started splitting where the v joins..
I cannot recommend enough spending a little more money and buying a scat track hauler..
I have 8 paddle hauler extremes on my used to be stock 04 660 and are still in excellent shape after 7 years.
With your bike being bone stock in a puddle hauler won't be bogged down.
But if you want to little more wheelspin and not as much traction go with the six or 7 paddle tire.
Sand stars suck and I personally will never purchase them again.
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I've had good luck with Sand Star's. Honda 250R, Honda 310R, and 2 different Raptor 700's. No problems. My motors don't stay stock, and they took the power and abuse.


Now I have Skat's on everything, but, Sand Star would be my second choice.
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I've had sand stars, the are heavy molded tire. My sand stars lasted 8 trips to glamis and started splitting where the v joins..
I cannot recommend enough spending a little more money and buying a scat track hauler..
I have 8 paddle hauler extremes on my used to be stock 04 660 and are still in excellent shape after 7 years.
With your bike being bone stock in a puddle hauler won't be bogged down.
But if you want to little more wheelspin and not as much traction go with the six or 7 paddle tire.
Sand stars suck and I personally will never purchase them again.

Skat Traks can have the paddle rip of since its just vulcanized on. Part of how long something lasts is how bad it gets abused, and some times you just get a bad one. ITP isn't known for making low quality tires.

I run Sand Stars on which ever machine in my sig doesn't have the Skat Trak's. My in-laws also run sand stars on a heavy Rhino 660 with out problems.

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Everyone has their opinion,but if you ever go to glamis you will notice more people run skats than any other tire..
There's a reason for that but if the budget is tight sand stars are cheaper..
Craigslist would prolly get you sand stars and a set of haulers with rims for what I paid for my extreme haulers..
I like the way haulers float on top of the sand the sand stars tend to need a lot more speed get on top..
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Everyone has their opinion,but if you ever go to glamis you will notice more people run skats than any other tire..
There's a reason for that..
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Yea, your a lot more likely to run in to dedicated dune, drag, or hill shooter machine, so it would be logical to see more straight blade paddle tires.

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