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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 02-03-2015, 10:31 PM Thread Starter
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Best beginner platform for dirt drags

So my local track is talking about running some dirt drags this year. I think for the most part to start with it is just going to be all the guys that are rodeoing their 450's will be dragging them just for fun so my Raptor setup for trails should be fine to get started. My big question is if they keep this around I will want to get more serious and get something more dedicated for drags and from you guys with dirt drag experience what would be the best beginner platform to start with (banshee, 660, 700) I have had all of the before mentioned and it sure seemed like my stroker banshee was the fastest of the bunch but it was also a pain in the ass to keep running right. I am not talking about stripping a bike down to only weighing 200lbs and its 12ft long and takes a mile to turn around, I am talking about something with basically stock front suspension, maybe like a +6 swingarm and something I can still blast around my subdivision on doing burnouts and take to the dunes occasionally for some fun. I figure 80% of these guys are going to be just good old boy racers with exhaust, cam, and some compression out to have a good time and I would just like to stay a little bit ahead of them.

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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 02-03-2015, 11:41 PM
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If you want a rideable bike, definitely go with a 700. Banshees can be scary fast, but it's very difficult to make them a do-all bike.

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I have a 2014 se raptor 700 and a 2014 se grizzly 700 so I have other bikes to ride, I just want something to add to the stable that is more of a straight line bike than a trail setup like I have now. I know it doesnt take a lot of money to make good power with a banshee but is a raptor better in every other aspect.

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Do something fun or semi original. Maybe a 250r or even a blaster.
Roll up on a built blaster and shame everyone.

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post #5 of 28 (permalink) Old 02-04-2015, 08:32 AM
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Are they having different classes for 450's /700's? Are the classes broke down by modifications? Personally, unless they have the drags very regularly, I would just do a big 3 or 5 setup to start, and buy a lowering kit. Try out different sprocket combos for whatever distances you're racing. Work on your suspension to get a good launch off the line and get as much weight transfer to the rear tire as possible without feeling like its pulling the front wheels too much. Get a good set of rear tires, Ohtsu 501's hook up good if you can still get them...... If the racing gets serious and you get into the motor a little more, then add a + swingarm.

I've seen things like this come and go over the years, you could wrap up a ton of $$ into it, and a couple years later attendance gets low, so the race organizers loose interest in doing them.. Been there before!
Good luck Bud!

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Yeah thats part of what I am afraid of it building a quad and then this all falls apart. The last time they did something like this they lumped the 450s together with the 700s. The 450s would jump off the line and then the well built raptors would pull past them. I have always wanted to build a good chassis quad with a banshee based motor in it so this may be the time. I think a 700 raptor frame with a cub or cheetah motor in it would be awesome and something I could still thrash around on if this all falls apart.

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I had a 700 with a 14:1 piston, 5 mil crank, +2 TB, FCI, DMC pipes, +1 head, 5050 cam, PC3 and Dyna. It dynoed at only 71HP, Had Full LT Houser front with Custom Axis shocks, Skid plates and the Bling star sprocket and rotor guard, +4 axle, Flexx bars,Stablizer, Anti vibe stem, and that bike would outrun 90% of the bikes I ran against yet I could ride it everywhere and have a blast as the suspension was nice. My favorite bike to this day was that. I now am going with a more drag based bike just because thats all I do with it anyway but I wouldn't mind a bike like I had. For a all around Drag, Trail, Duner then the 700 is king. For a all out drag bike the Banshee has more options and are usually much faster though there is usually only a few real fast ones and lot that look fast but are slow an usually full of excuses of why it was SLOW! Thats wht I like about a 4 stroke is you start it up, pull up to the line and race over and over and it always runs close to the same.
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you have a new quad with a fresh motor or atleast it should be.

by the time you buy all kinds of parts to build a fast quad I highly suggest looking into a turbo setup from D7 makes great power and is reliable and can ride anywhere.

I'm glad I switched over I could not be happier
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I been thinking about getting a 250r and making it a full drag bike. Those things are fast as shit pretty much stock! With a few good mods I bet it would be a rocket!!!

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