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99% Trail build; opinions/info on parts/vendors

Hello,

I have an 18 700r se and I have a few known things I want to do, which requires supporting mods, which means I have more than just those few "wants" I need to get. Such is life when shuffling weakpoints ha.

My goals for the machine are very simple, as this will be a nearly 100% trail machine: more power (low-end), more snap (throttle response), plateau/power under the curve (not chasing peak dyno numbers at top of the band). I am more than willing to sacrifice top-end power to move/keep that curve down low.

I know it seems pretty copy/paste at this point as to which brands/items to get for the Big 3, but I've actually had some interesting responses from vendors too (any time a vendor suggests a cheaper option than what I say I'm interested in, I consider it "interesting").

My parts list, so far:
* Protection
- Nerf bars - OWN (GYTR Part#1AS-F11E0-T0-00 - Note: I would not buy these again. The fitment at the front where the 2 sides connect via clamp is utterly horrendous)
- Case Saver - OWN (UPP Part#1031)
- Lower Chain Roller - OWN (UPP Part#1056)
- Poly skid; belly pan - OWN (DRW - thanks @Cammy )
- Poly skid; swing arm

* Power
- Exhaust; Monster full (a slip-on was recommended, curiously)
- Intake; Pro-design/K&N (Monster was recommended)
-- Will need to run at least 3 sides of a box, but would like option of drycharger filter for lid if that's a thing (it is on my 400) if I'm not swamping it
- Ignition; PC5 w/ timing (not looking for big numbers, but pulling/adding timing is, IMO, needed for moving that curve)
- Throttle Body; not sure if port/polish or + size on this one. I do know the TB is such a huge difference maker in cars it's on my "must do" list for pretty much everything when modding.

*Misc
- AIS blockoff - OWN (CR)
- CR8EK spark plug - OWN (CR)
- In-line temp gauge - OWN (CR)
- HB riser/anti-vibe/new bars - OWN (Alba Racing+1/Alba Racing antivibe/ProTaper SE ATV Midbend (Mfg#2109D))
- Steering Stabilizer
- Digital Display; probably Trail Tech Vapor model whatever...
---actually would like to go with KOSO RX2N (or rs2n; some discrepancies in model info)
- New rear tires; something taller/beefier than the stockers...still looking
--XC Masters
--GBC X-REX

After a month of research...that's as far as I made it lol

Any thoughts on the above?

Also, seeing as how most of the vendors died out in the great meteorite impact of 2008, are there any suggested vendors for the above anymore? I reached out to Cuervo Racing but idk if he/they just do builds or if they sell hardparts above rebuilt pieces (like the TB). I see TQS has great prices, but a seemingly horrendous reputation. If you don't want to put someone on blast, PM me if you can.

-Racers Edge
-Cuervo Racing

Any expertise you could share would be greatly appreciated!
EDIT: Going to keep this list updated with suggestions from you
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Seems like youve done your homework. I have the trail tech vapor and i used to really like it... until i saw that damn KOSO RS2. Now if i was gonna buy one id get it instead

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Think you are on the right track. Full exhaust no questions... I prefer FCI intake as I have had Monster, Trinity, Pro-flow intakes. +3 TB, and look at a shelf cam like a Hot Cam 3, PCV. Cuervo or Racers Edge would be my choice of vendors as they both sell everything.
I would look at shock re-valving by Kevin (Jogaca). Night and day difference in handling from stock. You can find him on Facebook or I can give you his number if interested.
IMO I would go with GBC XC Masters... great price and are durable.
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Think you are on the right track. Full exhaust no questions... I prefer FCI intake as I have had Monster, Trinity, Pro-flow intakes. +3 TB, and look at a shelf cam like a Hot Cam 3, PCV. Cuervo or Racers Edge would be my choice of vendors as they both sell everything.
I would look at shock re-valving by Kevin (Jogaca). Night and day difference in handling from stock. You can find him on Facebook or I can give you his number if interested.
IMO I would go with GBC XC Masters... great price and are durable.
thanks for the info!

I was thinking the XC Masters if I stuck with knobbies (which I probably will), but I'm still pretty early in the tire research. I had some STI Tech 4's on my 400 which seemed to hold up pretty well, but I felt like getting the traction dialed in was kind of a PITA for an all-around tire.

Did you run your FCI with or without the box? As I said, I'm going to need to keep it housed, as the vast majority of my trail runs get wet/muddy. At that point, the cost of FCI housed vs a pro-flow may not be worth the gains...especially when focusing on low-end? Just guessing here.

Regarding shock rebuild and cams...I'll likely do a rebuild when the time comes for the shocks, and I'm not opening the pandora's box that is internals for as long as I can help it!

Appreciate the info
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That FCI will really only be noticeable on the top end, which you are not after. Go with the Pro Design model in your case.

I run the GBC X-REX on both of our Raptors, won't go any other route for their affordable price.

If you get the Trail Tech Vapor it has an inline digital temp guage, so you can kill 2 birds with 1 stone there.

I would suggest a Precision or Fastway Steering stabilizer for trails. Look in the For Sale section in here, hippy has one for sale. They make a world of difference on the trails.
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RacersEdge +3TB
YFZ 450 fronts & reworked rear by JOGACA
Trailtech 1 1/8 xbar w/vapor dash & Vapor installed
ODI Rogue grips & ASV pro pack levers
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That FCI will really only be noticeable on the top end, which you are not after. Go with the Pro Design model in your case.

I run the GBC X-REX on both of our Raptors, won't go any other route for their affordable price.

If you get the Trail Tech Vapor it has an inline digital temp guage, so you can kill 2 birds with 1 stone there.

I would suggest a Precision or Fastway Steering stabilizer for trails. Look in the For Sale section in here, hippy has one for sale. They make a world of difference on the trails.
thank you

After looking into the above suggested koso rs2n (or rx2n...whichever it actually is) I'm definitely getting that. it looks awesome and I'm often-times attracted to shiny things. I'll look into the tempgauge situation on that...

I'll put the GBC X-REX's on the shortlist.

You aren't the first suggesting a stabilizer. My buddy rides with a group from KY that swear by them (they ride MUCH harder than anyone else in my group, so I value their opinion, even if they are Honda fanboys lol). I'll put it on the list.

Thanks again
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Don't chince out on that stabilizer. Buy once, cry once (even though at times I go the other route, lol). Learn from my mistakes...
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[U]2006 raptor 700

DMC Force 4's, FCI W/box, Dynatek Fusion,
CP 11:1 piston, BaMotorsports porting, HC3
RacersEdge +3TB
YFZ 450 fronts & reworked rear by JOGACA
Trailtech 1 1/8 xbar w/vapor dash & Vapor installed
ODI Rogue grips & ASV pro pack levers
Fastway steering stabilizer
68HP 49TQ

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thank you

After looking into the above suggested koso rs2n (or rx2n...whichever it actually is) I'm definitely getting that. it looks awesome and I'm often-times attracted to shiny things. I'll look into the tempgauge situation on that...

I'll put the GBC X-REX's on the shortlist.

You aren't the first suggesting a stabilizer. My buddy rides with a group from KY that swear by them (they ride MUCH harder than anyone else in my group, so I value their opinion, even if they are Honda fanboys lol). I'll put it on the list.

Thanks again
i love my precision stabilizer its great for the trails/ruts and anything that would typically tear the bar out of your hands or send you sailing. i would definitely suggest getting one. as Morph said Hippy is selling one.

06 700 se
+2 Alba A arms
+1 Houser ant-vibe stem
Fasst Flexx bars
Precision Pro stabilizer
long travel yfz shocks redone by Jogca
oem rear shock redone by Jogca
GBC XC-Masters
Big Gun Exo duals
FCI intake w/box
PC5 w/ignition
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Steve at TQS is a great guy, just works a full time job plus does all the parts stuff. So sometimes he takes a day or two extra.

One that I use quite often is Kenneth at kbmotorsports.com

Both are great and have awesome prices.

If you do anything suspension (shocks, a arms, stabilizer, etc.) call Kenneth, he is a encyclopedia for that stuff.

Motor parts like cams, pistons, head studs call Steve at TQS.
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Think you are on the right track. Full exhaust no questions... I prefer FCI intake as I have had Monster, Trinity, Pro-flow intakes. +3 TB, and look at a shelf cam like a Hot Cam 3, PCV. Cuervo or Racers Edge would be my choice of vendors as they both sell everything.
I would look at shock re-valving by Kevin (Jogaca). Night and day difference in handling from stock. You can find him on Facebook or I can give you his number if interested.
IMO I would go with GBC XC Masters... great price and are durable.
thanks for the info!

I was thinking the XC Masters if I stuck with knobbies (which I probably will), but I'm still pretty early in the tire research. I had some STI Tech 4's on my 400 which seemed to hold up pretty well, but I felt like getting the traction dialed in was kind of a PITA for an all-around tire.

Did you run your FCI with or without the box? As I said, I'm going to need to keep it housed, as the vast majority of my trail runs get wet/muddy. At that point, the cost of FCI housed vs a pro-flow may not be worth the gains...especially when focusing on low-end? Just guessing here.

Regarding shock rebuild and cams...I'll likely do a rebuild when the time comes for the shocks, and I'm not opening the pandora's box that is internals for as long as I can help it!

Appreciate the info
I bought 2 FCI with box but removed the box because of my riding conditions.
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