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I just bought my raptor tonight. I am huge into diesel performance and loved the low end of the raptor so i went with it.

Its got an aftermarket intake with the lid off, and a the SA is taken out. But i do have both the lid and SA....

my question is what are some quick mods to do to make it the best it can be?

I hear a lot about the big 3, but most of the posts around here get super confusing. what is the big 3?

Also what EFI controller should i get? And when will i actually need it?
 

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I just bought my raptor tonight. I am huge into diesel performance and loved the low end of the raptor so i went with it.

Its got an aftermarket intake with the lid off, and a the SA is taken out. But i do have both the lid and SA....

my question is what are some quick mods to do to make it the best it can be?

I hear a lot about the big 3, but most of the posts around here get super confusing. what is the big 3?

Also what EFI controller should i get? And when will i actually need it?

I have researched the crap out of this and I am getting the following big 3 (Exhaust-Intake-Fuel Controller)

Exhaust- Curtis Sparks xx6 Single (can go with Barkers or DMC's if you want duals)

Intake- Trinity billet intake with K&N, PLUS a foam wrap with airbox lid off

FI Controller- Powercommander PCV, it is smaller than the PCIII and holds 2 maps!

Hope this helps. You can look at shootouts on pipes on this site and listen to how they sound on youtube. Here is a link to the shootout!

http://www.************.com/community/dyno-tuning/4622-700r-pipe-shootout-singles-vs-duals.html

Daniel at High Desert Dyno did this shootout. You will also want to slip him a few bucks for the proper tune for your setup after you buy your parts, I hear they are spot on.

Hope this helps.
 

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DL's a beast on the dyno machine. Yeah the big3 is just exhuast,intake,and fuel controller. That's just begining. The mod bugg already biting at ya huh.
 

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JDU700r's recommendation sounds pretty good, You might want to think about noise restrictions if any where you ride as some pipes are louder than others. The GYTR that I have is LOUD!!:eek: and the trinity controller has been fine for me however I know there are better ones out there. If you are going to continue modding get stuff you can reprogram to suit your future mods.
I'd definately go with a 15t front sprocket, you will notice a difference straight away if you ride woods, fire roads and twisties.
 

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JDU700r's recommendation sounds pretty good, You might want to think about noise restrictions if any where you ride as some pipes are louder than others. The GYTR that I have is LOUD!!:eek: and the trinity controller has been fine for me however I know there are better ones out there. If you are going to continue modding get stuff you can reprogram to suit your future mods.
I'd definately go with a 15t front sprocket, you will notice a difference straight away if you ride woods, fire roads and twisties.
So the 15t front sprocket sort of lowers the gearing a little bit? That way its easier to go slow if need be? I will ride on dirt trails/woods etc about 70% of the time
I have researched the crap out of this and I am getting the following big 3 (Exhaust-Intake-Fuel Controller)

Exhaust- Curtis Sparks xx6 Single (can go with Barkers or DMC's if you want duals)

Intake- Trinity billet intake with K&N, PLUS a foam wrap with airbox lid off

FI Controller- Powercommander PCV, it is smaller than the PCIII and holds 2 maps!

Hope this helps. You can look at shootouts on pipes on this site and listen to how they sound on youtube. Here is a link to the shootout!

http://www.************.com/community/dyno-tuning/4622-700r-pipe-shootout-singles-vs-duals.html

Daniel at High Desert Dyno did this shootout. You will also want to slip him a few bucks for the proper tune for your setup after you buy your parts, I hear they are spot on.

Hope this helps.
Okay thanks man. I have the Yamaha aftermarket intake. Do you think that is a good enough one of now? Its nearly identical to a K&N.

And should i do the fuel controller next? I hear you can't run the new pipe without the fuel controller...

and most likely i will save up for the barkers, i want duals!

Next question: how difficult is it to adjust valves? Its an 06 and its never been done
 

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So the 15t front sprocket sort of lowers the gearing a little bit? That way its easier to go slow if need be? I will ride on dirt trails/woods etc about 70% of the time

Okay thanks man. I have the Yamaha aftermarket intake. Do you think that is a good enough one of now? Its nearly identical to a K&N.

And should i do the fuel controller next? I hear you can't run the new pipe without the fuel controller...

and most likely i will save up for the barkers, i want duals!

Next question: how difficult is it to adjust valves? Its an 06 and its never been done
Congrats on the new purchase and welcome to the forums. To answer a few of your questions:

The 15t spreads your gearing out so you wont feel like your shifting as much. It also adds a little to your speed. Its an amazing and cheap upgrade.

The intake you are running will be fine. Just add an outerware to it. Your fuel controller should be your next mod yes and you do need it to run a new pipe unless your going with just a slip on. You will Love the Barkers. They are sik as hell. I won't switch from Barkers unless Sparks comes out with a dual set-up.

Adjusting the valves is fairly easy if you have the right tools. Number one thing to get is a maintenance manual. It will help you more than you could possibly imagine.
 

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Congrats on the new purchase and welcome to the forums. To answer a few of your questions:

The 15t spreads your gearing out so you wont feel like your shifting as much. It also adds a little to your speed. Its an amazing and cheap upgrade.

The intake you are running will be fine. Just add an outerware to it. Your fuel controller should be your next mod yes and you do need it to run a new pipe unless your going with just a slip on. You will Love the Barkers. They are sik as hell. I won't switch from Barkers unless Sparks comes out with a dual set-up.

Adjusting the valves is fairly easy if you have the right tools. Number one thing to get is a maintenance manual. It will help you more than you could possibly imagine.
Thanks man! I can just pick up the maintenance manual from the local yamaha dealer or what?

And yeah the controller will be my next mod definitely, the intake alraedy has the outer foam on it. And yes the barkers should be amazing if i can rake up the dough quick enough.

Next question, my bike sometimes backfires, or pops. Is that from having to much fuel and not enough air? Bike is stock but has the spark arrester out
 

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oh and can you throw me some links as to wear i should go to buy all the stuff for my quad? Other than the classifieds. Thanks
Here ya go bro. All the sites I check out and then some. Also some of the site sponsors have some killer deals so check with them as well.

http://www.goallballs.com/home.asp
http://www.albaaction.com/
http://www.blingstar.com/
http://store.dirtfiendracing.com/
http://www.lsracing.com/
http://www.motosport.com/
http://www.locomx.com/
http://www.troyleedesigns.com/ - Some of the best riding gear on the market. VERY, VERY, VERY nice helmets.

Also you can download a copy of the manual from this site:

http://www.maxmekker.com/atv.asp
 

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Here ya go bro. All the sites I check out and then some. Also some of the site sponsors have some killer deals so check with them as well.

http://www.goallballs.com/home.asp
http://www.albaaction.com/
http://www.blingstar.com/
http://store.dirtfiendracing.com/
http://www.lsracing.com/
http://www.motosport.com/
http://www.locomx.com/
http://www.troyleedesigns.com/ - Some of the best riding gear on the market. VERY, VERY, VERY nice helmets.

Also you can download a copy of the manual from this site:

http://www.maxmekker.com/atv.asp
Hey thanks a bunch! I am a part of the powerstroke forums and am constantly helping nebies over there, so its nice to see people are willing to help me when i find a toy i know nothing about!

Is there a section or anything by state? I was looking and didnt find anything, i'd like to find other guys from Oregon. It doesnt have to be just raptors. I just want people to go ride with since all my buddies can't afford one
 

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Hey thanks a bunch! I am a part of the powerstroke forums and am constantly helping nebies over there, so its nice to see people are willing to help me when i find a toy i know nothing about!

Is there a section or anything by state? I was looking and didnt find anything, i'd like to find other guys from Oregon. It doesnt have to be just raptors. I just want people to go ride with since all my buddies can't afford one
No worries man. That's what the forum is for. As far as separate states no. You just have to post a thread announcing Oregon and see if anybody from there responds. I would ride with you if I lived closer and had my bike but its in my garage about 10,000 miles away or so. :D
 

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No worries man. That's what the forum is for. As far as separate states no. You just have to post a thread announcing Oregon and see if anybody from there responds. I would ride with you if I lived closer and had my bike but its in my garage about 10,000 miles away or so. :D
haha no worries man, i'll throw up a new thread after awhile. So your thinking my very first mods should be the EFI controller and then the new front sprocket?

What will i notice with the new front sprocket, i weigh 220 and this bike seems perfect now
 

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haha no worries man, i'll throw up a new thread after awhile. So your thinking my very first mods should be the EFI controller and then the new front sprocket?

What will i notice with the new front sprocket, i weigh 220 and this bike seems perfect now
The 15t Front Sprocket really depends on your riding style. Where are you going to be riding. If its mostly sand I would go with a 13t maybe even stick with the 14t. If your doing trails I would say either the 14t or the 15t would work good. You could invest in the 13t and the 15t and switch them out to see what works best for your needs and terrain. They are only about $15-$20 each.

Seeing as how its an older bike, take a close look at the teeth on the front and rear sprocket. If they look worn, go ahead and replace the whole set up (front sprocket, rear sprocket, and chain) all in one. Its recommended that it be done as a set.

As for the EFI, I would look into getting an PCV instead of the PC3. Its a newer and smaller version that allows you to switch between 2 maps and it allows you to add Auto-Tune down the road.
 

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The 15t Front Sprocket really depends on your riding style. Where are you going to be riding. If its mostly sand I would go with a 13t maybe even stick with the 14t. If your doing trails I would say either the 14t or the 15t would work good. You could invest in the 13t and the 15t and switch them out to see what works best for your needs and terrain. They are only about $15-$20 each.

Seeing as how its an older bike, take a close look at the teeth on the front and rear sprocket. If they look worn, go ahead and replace the whole set up (front sprocket, rear sprocket, and chain) all in one. Its recommended that it be done as a set.

As for the EFI, I would look into getting an PCV instead of the PC3. Its a newer and smaller version that allows you to switch between 2 maps and it allows you to add Auto-Tune down the road.
This bike has been riden 6 times ever. I bought it from the guy who bought it brand new. The dirt tires had never been on the quad before i owned it, and the paddles look BRAND new. I doubt any teeth are worn on the sprocket haha

So 15t is just like gearing a car from 4.10's to 4.35's or 4.50's? It makes it have much better bottom end but not quite as fast up top

Then a 13t does the opposite? Takes away some torque and makes it fast
 

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This bike has been riden 6 times ever. I bought it from the guy who bought it brand new. The dirt tires had never been on the quad before i owned it, and the paddles look BRAND new. I doubt any teeth are worn on the sprocket haha

So 15t is just like gearing a car from 4.10's to 4.35's or 4.50's? It makes it have much better bottom end but not quite as fast up top

Then a 13t does the opposite? Takes away some torque and makes it fast
My bad...being as its an 06' i figured it would have more wear but thats good. There is a good article on gearing in the new Dirt Wheels. Talks about what it did on the 450 but still the same concept.

The other way around. The 15t spreads the gears out so it doesn't seem like your shifting all the time.

A low to mid 3rd would be a new high 2nd with a 15t.
 

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The other way around. The 15t spreads the gears out so it doesn't seem like your shifting all the time.

A low to mid 3rd would be a new high 2nd with a 15t.
Okay but this would also make 1st gear quite a bit faster? Which could make riding in the woods a little worse, but then again its easy to change it out.

Wheres the cheapest place to pick one of those up? Im going to get it on order, also what are your thoughts on a HMF fuel controller? Guy has one for $80 shipped. Since all im doing is intake and exhaust is that good enough?
 

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The article in the new Dirt Wheels is as follows. Please keep this in mind that its for a 450 but still the same concept. All test's were done with Renthal sprockets and ITP Holeshots mounted on ITP Rims

Gearing/Tire Size/Speed/Notes

1) Stock Gearing 14-38 / 20" / 74mph / does not hit rev limiter, gets top speed quick
2) 14-38 /22" / 75.1mph / does not hit limiter, goes through 1-3 well, but 4&5 don't pull very hard
3) 14-36 / 22" / 74.9mph / does not hit limiter, speed between each gear felt much stronger than stock
4) 15-36 / 22" / 77.1mph / does not hit limiter, spread between each gear felt the longest
5) 15-38 / 22" / 75.4mph / does not hit limiter, rear end felt skatey
6) 15-36 / 20" / 74.9mph / does not hit limiter, strong out of hole and felt the best on the track

They ended up going with the 15/36 Renthal gearing on 20" ITP.
 

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The article in the new Dirt Wheels is as follows. Please keep this in mind that its for a 450 but still the same concept. All test's were done with Renthal sprockets and ITP Holeshots mounted on ITP Rims

Gearing/Tire Size/Speed/Notes

1) Stock Gearing 14-38 / 20" / 74mph / does not hit rev limiter, gets top speed quick
2) 14-38 /22" / 75.1mph / does not hit limiter, goes through 1-3 well, but 4&5 don't pull very hard
3) 14-36 / 22" / 74.9mph / does not hit limiter, speed between each gear felt much stronger than stock
4) 15-36 / 22" / 77.1mph / does not hit limiter, spread between each gear felt the longest
5) 15-38 / 22" / 75.4mph / does not hit limiter, rear end felt skatey
6) 15-36 / 20" / 74.9mph / does not hit limiter, strong out of hole and felt the best on the track

They ended up going with the 15/36 Renthal gearing on 20" ITP.
So the 14 or 15 is the front sprocket and the next number is rear sprocket? Then the 3d is tire size correct? Im pretty lazy so i dont wanna go look, what is my stock tire size? I have the stock dirt tires and then some haulers that are the same size as them. I'm guessing its 20"??

So it looks like you should either go with more teeth on the sprocket or a bigger tire by their tests....
 

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So the 14 or 15 is the front sprocket and the next number is rear sprocket? Then the 3d is tire size correct? Im pretty lazy so i dont wanna go look, what is my stock tire size? I have the stock dirt tires and then some haulers that are the same size as them. I'm guessing its 20"??

So it looks like you should either go with more teeth on the sprocket or a bigger tire by their tests....
Yeah the 14 or the 15 is the front and the 36 or the 38 is the rear. The stock gearing is 14/38 and the stock tire sizes are Front, 21x7x10, and Rear, 20x10x9.
 
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