well i posted on here about my 700 and friends ltr 450.....he went through with his build that his builder (dont wana throw his name out since i didnt hear from him myself) but does 700s as well... claims his ltr will dyno 75-78 hp to the wheels, ltr ends up at 595cc, custom stroker crank/bb cyl 15.1 custom made cp,custom cams, drag port head, 54mm bored crf tbody,lockout, inj and supporting mods....??? money was no object in this build i know hes at 6k or so in the engine.... but 78hp???? it takes alot to pull that from a 700 base let alone a 450 most built ltr i cld find put dwn 60s and those were the highest i could find any thoughts, were gona drag at busco this weekend and hes talkin all kinds of ish.... ill prolly loose but idk by how much...id say my bike makes low 60s at best and rarely loose even againt 700s with more work then mine