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So me and a friend want to take a trip to little sahara in oklahoma soon. Never been before, was wondering if there was any upcoming events or anything? or we just go anytime? Tips or advice for a first timer? You dont have to have a title or anything silly like that do ya? I know we need flags, anything else?

Also, i have never rode on sand before. How much do i really need sand tires on the front?

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I go once or twice a year. No title needed. Front sand tires aren't needed - I usually don't even use them on the rear.

You are supposed to get a wrist band each day from the park office. It is $10 per day.

Fun place. We usually go during the week so there isn't as much traffic. Even weekends aren't bad though, just stay alert.
 

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No events coming up at all. No title no problem, main thing is if you have under 18 yr old they need a helmet, flag that is 10ft tall (if I remember correctly) off your bike. It will be tough getting around on stock tires if the sand is dry and usually don't need front sand tires at all, unless you go quite often. Keep your head on a swivel everywhere especially trails, the SXS don't care about you because they have a cage. Best practice is to ride in groups or pairs. Go up the dunes slow just because of the unknown on the other side.
 

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Thanks for the respose guys, im super excited! I have some sand geckos for the rear, just need to get them mounted and get a flag and i guess im good to go! We are thinking probly the first week of november, so if anyone wants to join us, the more the better. On a side note, is there a dyno close to there? There is definitely not one close to home and it would be a great opportunity to get it done if there was one nearby...

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I think thats where my friend had his kfx450 done and he really liked them. I will be with a group and dont want to hold them up too much, but if i drive they wont have a choice i found one online in wanoka oklahoma called "little sahara power sports" i havnt tried to contact them yet but if its right there nearby that would be ideal for me. Anyone heard of or used them for dyno tuning?

Also, i dug out the sand tires. They are not geckos, they are kenda "the trakker" 8 paddles. Any good? I want to be able to get around well, even if it means i need to get something different
 

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They should get you around fairly well. Won't win many races with them, but they will work. Take your dirt tires just in case. They sold their dyno a year or two back, Mike was a great tuner but they said insurance was getting out of hand for it. There are only two that I can recall in Oklahoma and Tulsa's is by far the cheaper of the two.
 

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Heck of a lot cheaper than what I paid at Vickery in Denver. That set me back $350.
 

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4Stroker, We've made the trip from St. Louis 5 or 6 times in the last 4 years. All the advice given is spot on. There's Stewarts Power Sports in Waynoka. I have nothing but good things to say about those guys. The Lil sahara website will tell you what flag height has to be, its gotta hit a goalpost type thing on your way in. I think its a 8 ft flag which will be 10 or more of the ground (like Cammy said). You can get em at Stewarts cheaper than in STL.
One of our trips was in NOV. the weather was good but the sand was pretty rough. If you can get there on a thurs. or as early as possible on friday before it gets to beat up. I'll P.M. ya my # tomorrow when I'm home. I can fill you in on such things as...finding your way back in the dark when you're lost as F#$ck, exactly how much of a "head on a swivel you need (alot), and the local wildlife you may OR may not come across such as porcupines and rattlesnakes, and the liquor laws (they aint like ours). You're gonna love it man.
 

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We should try and get a ride going sometime out there my son wants to go in the worst way just the 25hr drive one way doing it solo with my 14yr old son worries me
Not sure I can drive that non stop and can’t take 2 weeks off either lol


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I want to get an l.e.d. lightbar for the raptor for this trip, as we might do a little night riding. There are SOOOO many to choose from!! Anybody have any recommendations?

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I have Cree units. Very good. I got it from GTPoffroad.com. Don't buy anything super cheap, then moisture can get behind the lens. Study up on the IP rating on them I think it is.
 

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My buddy has a CREE on his rincon, has had no issues and rides trails with creeks, mud, etc. I have a rigid bar that cost a small fortune, however it can take a blast from a shotgun, I guess thats a good thing. I also have 2 small bar lights that flank my rigid light on the bars. They where cheap, $25 on amazon. I think NI-ligh makes em. I have had no problems with them although I did silicone where the wires come in just to be safe. I know Cammy bought a reasonably cheap light before he met up with us, it worked just fine. Maybe he'll chime in. For the Dunes especially I recommend getting one you can fasten to your handlebars, Depth perception can be tricky out there since its all sand and its nice to be able to just turn your bars and look around.
With all the lights I have now, in the woods its almost like daylight, but in the dunes its a drop in the bucket, still way better than just stock which is all we had the first trip but thats another story. Yeah man, get some lights.
 

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I bought a rigid handle bar mount from GTP then paired it up with a 30$ amazon special. It worked well for the price, but didn't compare to Matt's. I only used it the one time but it worked better than I had expected.

My outlook on it was, I ride maybe 2-3 times a year at night if I'm lucky. So if I ruin one every year I'm still ahead of the game.
 

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Thats where im at on it. I have never rode trail at night around here and probably wont use this light exept for the rare trip like this. So i really didnt want to spend a ton of $

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Here's my whole setup 4Stroker. They lowers are hids, on the bars is a rigid and then the amazon $25 lights flanking it. Stay away from the HIDs, at the time LEDs weren't cheap and plentiful like now. If I was in your position, I'd look for a CREE about the length of your handlebar pad. IMO that would give you the most practical usage for your $. Cammys did work well for the $. Of course I stayed behind him, so he could see better. Not because he's a better rider on a faster bike. That's the way I tell it anyway.

Get a gps or atleast a gps app. Also print a map of the Dunes and carry it. Trust me, when it happens you'll know.
 

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