The reason why they are big in Europe is they are street riders. Most people here aren't interested in them because all the extra weight from the motor kills the handling of the quad off road. Also the 700 motor is as reliable as you'll find, why put in something else?
Raptor 700 cp2 mt07/r7 engine swap
What’s up guys I haven’t owned a raptor 700 since 2011,ive been driving my buddies 2022 raptor 700 se and I’ve been getting the raptor itch.I already am building a hybrid yfz450r with a banshee motor for trails and track riding,but I wanna build something for mostly street driving and making it road legal, and on a occasion trails because why not it has all the low and mid like a raptor.I noticed these swaps are big in the U.K. Why haven’t these swaps hit the u.s. yet?they honestly seem great swaps for raptor 700 chassis honestly what yamaha should’ve put in the raptor 700 in the get go.twin cylinder monster. I wouldn’t mind building one and the only down side is no reverse.any info and picture of the swap I would appreciate it,I’ve seen most of the videos on YouTube about it but it doesn’t show much info or pics on the web or in forums.but seems like a great candidate it builds power similar to a oem raptor motor but made to handle street and highway speeds.also seen a few get abused in the trails ,ridding deep water and mud and sand it just ate them up like it was a regular raptor.most of the swaps have the lower frame bracing I’m not sure why maybe it’s a space issue.but I know I’ve seen stock chassis handle 75-85hp with no problems.any insight on these builds would be awesome.
1 - 19 of 19 Posts
The raptor motor is bullet proof correct but when you start riding street and highway speeds for a longer period of time no atv engine can handle that type of abuse,it just works out better when starting with something that can handle the abuse from the start.also the weight difference can’t be as much of a difference between the two engines.I’m sure there’s a 30-40 lbs difference in weight between motors if that .Like I said this build would be my daily street legal quad.also the cp2 engine have 70-75hp all stock with that type of power out of a stock 700 motor you have to spend a lil bit of money to reach similar numbers and your putting more stress on that raptor motor pushing it to those power levels and also like I said the raptor motor is great for trails and messing around but for the street riding and traveling nothing withstands the rpm and speed unless it made for it.The reason why they are big in Europe is they are street riders. Most people here aren't interested in them because all the extra weight from the motor kills the handling of the quad off road. Also the 700 motor is as reliable as you'll find, why put in something else?
supposedly a yamaha cp2 motor weighs 110-120lbs, just slightly heavier than a yamaha raptor 700 .they say they weight on them are 100-115lbs I’m thinking weight on the engine swap shouldn’t be to much of a difference. If it is truly 5-10lbs difference. Also I feels the cp2 will handle the cruising in 65-75mph with no problem, while a raptor 700 motor would be pretty much tapped out of gear and rpm ok I inderstand then you change the sprocket for more top end I feel like any atv motor will not be able to handle that abuse realistically.The raptor motor is bullet proof correct but when you start riding street and highway speeds for a longer period of time no atv engine can handle that type of abuse,it just works out better when starting with something that can handle the abuse from the start.also the weight difference can’t be as much of a difference between the two engines.I’m sure there’s a 30-40 lbs difference in weight between motors if that .Like I said this build would be my daily street legal quad.also the cp2 engine have 70-75hp all stock with that type of power out of a stock 700 motor you have to spend a lil bit of money to reach similar numbers and your putting more stress on that raptor motor pushing it to those power levels and also like I said the raptor motor is great for trails and messing around but for the street riding and traveling nothing withstands the rpm and speed unless it made for it.
I don't get the want to ride a quad on the pavement. They drive like shit due to the solid axle. I could see doing it if you needed to ride from one riding spot to another but to just use it as a street machine would not be a choice I'd be interested in.
Ima try and get this build rolling as soon as I square up a few dollars for it, looking for a raptor 700 chassisI don't get the want to ride a quad on the pavement. They drive like shit due to the solid axle. I could see doing it if you needed to ride from one riding spot to another but to just use it as a street machine would not be a choice I'd be interested in.
I've got 17k miles on my 2009 Raptor with a lot of that being 60-70mph runs. All I have ever replaced (engine wise) is the oil, oil filter and spark plug every 500-1000 miles. I'm not exactly gentle on it either. Good maintenance and these engines are solid.The raptor motor is bullet proof correct but when you start riding street and highway speeds for a longer period of time no atv engine can handle that type of abuse,it just works out better when starting with something that can handle the abuse from the start.also the weight difference can’t be as much of a difference between the two engines.I’m sure there’s a 30-40 lbs difference in weight between motors if that .Like I said this build would be my daily street legal quad.also the cp2 engine have 70-75hp all stock with that type of power out of a stock 700 motor you have to spend a lil bit of money to reach similar numbers and your putting more stress on that raptor motor pushing it to those power levels and also like I said the raptor motor is great for trails and messing around but for the street riding and traveling nothing withstands the rpm and speed unless it made for it.
I also have an MT10 swapped Raptor and yes it's stinking quick and can easily cruise at 60-70 without sounding like a piston is away to come through the petrol tank - but it can't be thrown around like the 700 can. I do not use the MT10 Raptor off road at all and nor would I want to either.
If you like riding trails, stick with a 700, if you only want to do road use at 60-70mph+ then MT10 conversion all the way.
I’m thinking of going mt07 I know they put them in enduro’ sand they get abused also a few raptors in us are mt07 swap and they are used in the trails and are stupid reliable through mud and waterI've got 17k miles on my 2009 Raptor with a lot of that being 60-70mph runs. All I have ever replaced (engine wise) is the oil, oil filter and spark plug every 500-1000 miles. I'm not exactly gentle on it either. Good maintenance and these engines are solid.
I also have an MT10 swapped Raptor and yes it's stinking quick and can easily cruise at 60-70 without sounding like a piston is away to come through the petrol tank - but it can't be thrown around like the 700 can. I do not use the MT10 Raptor off road at all and nor would I want to either.
If you like riding trails, stick with a 700, if you only want to do road use at 60-70mph+ then MT10 conversion all the way.
The MT-07 is a good engine for sure, I have never tried an MT-07 Raptor, so can't offer any advise on it. I would think you would lose some of the low down torque the Raptor has vs MT-07 though. Would need to look at the power and torque charts. The only reason I did the MT-10 swap is because I bought a Raptor that had a blown engine and it worked out to be on slightly more expensive to do the MT-10 conversion and what a machine. It is only suitable for the roads though, wouldn't fancy trying to tame that on trails.... Each to their own though, but I wouldn't be swapping unless I had a problem with the standard engine, a lot of money to throw at something that isn't broken - but that's just my opinion 👍I’m thinking of going mt07 I know they put them in enduro’ sand they get abused also a few raptors in us are mt07 swap and they are used in the trails and are stupid reliable through mud and water
Mt07 have a lot of bottom and low end torque, idk if it’s as much as a stock raptor 700 motor but I could tell you if I do lose any bottom end power it can’t be to much them cp2 engines are torque monster in low to mid power.also are made to produce power in the low to mid and pull great up top.The MT-07 is a good engine for sure, I have never tried an MT-07 Raptor, so can't offer any advise on it. I would think you would lose some of the low down torque the Raptor has vs MT-07 though. Would need to look at the power and torque charts. The only reason I did the MT-10 swap is because I bought a Raptor that had a blown engine and it worked out to be on slightly more expensive to do the MT-10 conversion and what a machine. It is only suitable for the roads though, wouldn't fancy trying to tame that on trails.... Each to their own though, but I wouldn't be swapping unless I had a problem with the standard engine, a lot of money to throw at something that isn't broken - but that's just my opinion 👍
Yea good point actually, they are good torquey motors. I would need to look closer but would the sump not protrude from the bottom of the frame? I know it does on the MT-10 Raptor, but I also have exhausts running under frame. Another reason for not using off-road. Just something to consider if using on trails.Mt07 have a lot of bottom and low end torque, idk if it’s as much as a stock raptor 700 motor but I could tell you if I do lose any bottom end power it can’t be to much them cp2 engines are torque monster in low to mid power.also are made to produce power in the low to mid and pull great up top.
True it does have the sump stick out the bottom on the swaps I’ve seen but from the looks they build some type of skid plate to protect it ,also I’m sure the oil filter can have some type oil filter delete to relocate it if needed even though I seen them have no problem’s riding in the trails and the exhaust they had similar setup to your and never have a problem,but I will definitely speak to few exhaust companies in the atv industry and see if they could help me out with dual inframe exhaust setup maybe modify some type of raptor 700 big bore dual exhaust setup with modified cp2 header flange on it and some other fabrication to it would probably make the exhaust a bit easier than doing it straight from scratch and might actually work.l, but I’m not to worried about fab work I have a amazing fab guy he’s also doing the mounts and exhaust on my other hybrid build that’s soon to be done.Yea good point actually, they are good torquey motors. I would need to look closer but would the sump not protrude from the bottom of the frame? I know it does on the MT-10 Raptor, but I also have exhausts running under frame. Another reason for not using off-road. Just something to consider if using on trails.
People don’t do them here for several reasons.
Firstly most states don’t allow a vehicle sold as an off-road vehicle to ever be registered for highway use, relating to environmental protection laws.
Secondly, the 07 doesn’t make much power at all. Yes it would work well for the streets, refer to first point.
If going through all the trouble and expense, most would prefer a 4 cylinder 750 or 1kcc engine. The mt07 is also a fairly tall engine, so fitment issues.
Firstly most states don’t allow a vehicle sold as an off-road vehicle to ever be registered for highway use, relating to environmental protection laws.
Secondly, the 07 doesn’t make much power at all. Yes it would work well for the streets, refer to first point.
If going through all the trouble and expense, most would prefer a 4 cylinder 750 or 1kcc engine. The mt07 is also a fairly tall engine, so fitment issues.
Ultimately, to answer the OPs question. Absolutely you can fit an MT-07 engine, but my honest opinion is that for similar money you could do a lot more and get more out of it, especially as a street bike. MT-07 makes 70bhp @ 9000rpm in standard trim and makes 45lb/ft of torque @6500rpm, it's a relatively nice torque graph and you have 40lb/ft or more between 3000-9000rpm. Raptor 700 and the "big 3" and a half decent map will make just shy of 50bhp @ ~6000rpm and just shy of 45lb/ft @ ~4600rpm. If you get a good map, then it's a nice torque graph too and you will usually see above 40lb/ft from 3000-6500rpm. So as you can see the only real difference with the MT-07 is more BHP and Revs. My MT-10 Raptor with its first base map made 157bhp @ 11000rpm and 83 lbs/ft @ 8500rpm. Torque curve could have been better but still had 70lb/ft or more from 3000rpm to 11000rpm and works very well as a street bike, in my opinion.
I love all the feedback and info, I’ve been really looking into cp2 engines in the raptors.if anybody has any pic or a build thread please post them cp2 engine swapped raptor 700
If you Google mad man mechanics in the UK, I believe he has done a few MT-07 swaps, believe he has pictures on FB and videos on YouTube.
Yeah that’s who I been looking at him and asg are the ones doing all the swaps in the u.k and there’s another guy in Poland if I remember correctlyIf you Google mad man mechanics in the UK, I believe he has done a few MT-07 swaps, believe he has pictures on FB and videos on YouTube.
I’ve messages mad man through email got his number texted him honestly hard to speak to because the time difference he’s only replied back once or twice I’m waiting for him to give me a quote on the kit he offers.If you Google mad man mechanics in the UK, I believe he has done a few MT-07 swaps, believe he has pictures on FB and videos on YouTube.
1 - 19 of 19 Posts
Raptor Forum
A forum community dedicated to Yamaha Raptor owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, news, modifications, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more!
Full Forum Listing
