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4WD Doesn't Help Hill Climbing on the Sand?

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#1 ·
We were riding with a group on the dunes at Winchester Bay in Oregon recently. We had never ridden with anyone who had a 4WD Ute before.

One guy had a 660 Grizzly with all stock tires. We were all taking turns riding up and down a fairly long steep sand hill. The guy with his Grizzly attempted it in 2WD. He only got about 3/4 the way up and then had to back down the hill. So then he switched to 4WD and tried again. This time he didn't make it as far as he did in 2WD! Then he switched back to 2WD and tried again. Yep, he made it about 3/4 the way again. Back to 4WD--still not as far.

No one seemed to have an answer for this. Why would he be able to hill climb better in 2WD than 4WD? Like I said, all stock tires--no paddles.

When I thought about it later, the only answer I could come up with was that there is a slight power loss when the quad is powering 4 wheels as opposed to just 2. And since the front tires weren't sand tires anyway and most of the weight of the quad when riding up a sand hill is on the rear tires, the front tires did very little to help in 4WD.

Can anyone else here confirm that it is better to hill climb your Ute in 2WD? We were just used to riding with 2WD sports quads and didn't realize that 4WD wouldn't help you up a sand hill. Maybe sand tires on all 4 wheels would have helped?
 
#2 ·
My friends Brute climbs hills better in 2wd then 4wd too. It must be a power thing.
 
#4 ·
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My dad has a 660 grizz and he couldn't climb not a hill in the gravel pit by our house but he could do okay in 4WD. You can't climb nothing wen your in H (high) put it in L (low) you will go twice as far.

The rule is in a gravel pit were the hills are steep and you can't get a run at em 4WD LOW.

You did better in 2 because you had it in H or/and a big run.
 
#5 ·
We weren't riding at a gravel pit. This was a sand hill.

I don't know about the gearing being different. The Grizzly 660 is an automatic.

Yeah, he was in 4 High NOT 4 low when he tried the hill. He started from the same spot each time and just gave it full throttle so there was no variation when comparing 2WD to 4WD.
 
#7 ·
Yeah but in sand there is very little traction to be taken advantage of.
Because sand is light each paddle or lug have to push as much of it as they can which only gives a small amount of forward push. So the faster you can spin the tires the more you can accumulate the needed forward momentum generated by each paddle.
So because your utility quad is very heavy it requires a lot more forward push. When you put it in 4hi:
A. your loosening the sand in front of the rear tires which are your primary drive tires. And the fronts dig in preventing forward motion.
B. your machine also just lost a great deal of it's top end tq.Because now your turning 4 tires instead of 2.
Now I'm no expert! I'm just brainstorming here and could be wrong :)
 
#9 ·
Yeah ur probably right! I'm just trying to rationalize why this guys quad didnt go near as far in 4 as it did in 2 wheel drive. Those are really the only reasons I can think of. I'm sure the fronts will dig substantially though. And that has to upset the dynamics of good flotation and prevent forward momentum. Still just brainstorming hahaha! I like these threads cause I have the opportunity to learn more about common questions like this ;)
 
#14 ·
He wont have near as much power in 4wd as he does in 2wd. The gearing will not change from 2wd to 4wd. I know my rzr s wont climb near as far in 2wd as it will in 4wd and sand is realy tough to climb if you are trying to put power to 4 tires rather than 2.